In Whatcom County on Tuesday, a mile-long oil train derailed and caught fire as it was rolling toward a refinery in Ferndale. No one was hurt, and state officials say there have been no wildlife impacts. Eric de Place is an expert on oil trains and derailments. He's director of energy policy at the Sightline Institute -- a non-profit think-tank based in Seattle. He joined KUOW to talk about the dangers of transporting oil by rail.